| Mining the Barracks [message #146045] |
Sun, 27 March 2005 16:44   |
karmai
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Even with the likes of 5 mines on the inside door of a barracks, it still won't stop a chemical trooper and possibly a flamethrower. .
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OH NO, THE TWO MOST USELESS CHARACTERS IN THE GAME!
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146057] |
Sun, 27 March 2005 17:24 |
Jzinsky
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I like the flamethrower, good for removing snipers at close range because I'm torching them, and they need to get a lucky shot inamongst all the flame
No flashy signature..
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146062] |
Sun, 27 March 2005 17:41 |
flyingfox
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chemthrower is the most useless? He takes out buildings in the same time as a tech, and can bypass loads of mines making him very useful indeed. I think he can take 6 mines and be left with around 50 health, whereas a tech will be very lucky to survive that many. If you go with people you are also very good at sacrifice-mine-clearing, for example the tunnel on canyon, to let your teammates through (and you'll probably survive yourself)
also he and the flamethrower have a unique armor shield type making them more shell and explosive sustainable than any other character in the game. Try a chem rush sometime, you'll see
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146072] |
Sun, 27 March 2005 18:10 |
Jzinsky
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It'll probably work if only because gdi are falling about laughing
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146157] |
Mon, 28 March 2005 06:56 |
flyingfox
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Since the game was released and smart people checked his settings to see he has a better armor type than all other infantry (with the possible exception of mutants because they can heal on tiberium, but he can walk over it unharmed)
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146313] |
Mon, 28 March 2005 21:16 |
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I like the flamethrower, good for removing snipers at close range because I'm torching them, and they need to get a lucky shot inamongst all the flame
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you must play against the cream of the renegade community
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146366] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 08:22 |
Jzinsky
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I think I remember that argument. I had been getting killed with a single pistol round and you said that was possible, and I wasn't buying it. It's never happened since that argument though, maybe I'm getting better
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146373] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 08:56 |
flyingfox
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I was wrong about the shelling thing- all characters take the same damage from them but they're (F/C) still better against all c4 types
Plus you are right that nearly everyone can't kill you in a single headshot *provided you have full health*
The only way to survive a sniper headshot is to play on one of those servers that gives you the "god crate" or more health and armour when you score many points.
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146455] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 15:23 |
Jzinsky
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Hang on, I remember now. The argument was that I got killed with a single pistol round, I tried a pistol headshot myself and it took 80 off my shield. You were saying on the fud site that it did 5 or something.
Still doesn't matter anymore really though..
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146490] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:35 |
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Hang on, I remember now. The argument was that I got killed with a single pistol round, I tried a pistol headshot myself and it took 80 off my shield. You were saying on the fud site that it did 5 or something.
Still doesn't matter anymore really though..
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Pistol headshots do 50, as do most of the rapid fire rifle/pistol style weapons besides the basic rifles, as I explained before. Headshots from ramjet/sniper/PIC/railgun are death. Laser-based weapons and the flechette gun have burn damage afterwards causing more than 50, and flamers/chemwarriors do a lot of damage with a headshot providing their entire burst of 5 per 1 shot of ammo hits the head.
This is pretty cut and dry, there isn't really any arguing with the data from the game's settings unless you have HACLgade and you're using Final Ren or something.
It's all on the site, many people have gone over it with a fine-toothed comb and corrected the mistakes (including some of the people in this thread, thanks) and I would say at this point it is in its final version, at least for the character pages.
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146499] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 17:53 |
flyingfox
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Now all you need to put on the site is how to kill off a mobius with a flamethrower.
(I actually did this once, against a good player mark you)
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146502] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 18:08 |
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You will never find me fighting someone with a flamethrower/chemwarrior. I suck big time with them, I can't seem to get the spray to actually hit them lol, any tips?
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146506] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 18:39 |
Spoony_old
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I think the best tip is use a weapon which is actually good against infantry....
I cannot imagine why anyone would choose the flamethrower or chemwarrior for anti-infantry work over the pistol...
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146530] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 19:30 |
flyingfox
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I can't seem to get the spray to actually hit them lol, any tips?
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YES, to use the chemical spray or flamethrower against other soldiers you need to be in first person mode or else your sprays won't do much damage even when aimed to the head. An obvious tip is aiming for the head most of all and with this you can take down, or significantly hurt the most proficient of killers provided they are close enough. you might need to fire a little ahead of them in battle because of travel time (very low if they are only a few feet away).
The problem comes with fighting with snipers because as soon as you run straight you get a shot to the head; pretty frustrating but most people use snipers and you can't expect to murder everything with a base level character armed with a short range weapon. On the flipside, killing people with a flamethrower takes much more skill than standing in a field popshooting people in the body. There's the sneaking up and the ability to live long enough to kill the opposition. There are people proficient with snipers and rapid fire soldiers who can't kill jack with a chemical troop because combat technique is significantly different with them.
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| Mining the Barracks [message #146534] |
Tue, 29 March 2005 19:40 |
flyingfox
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I shit you not. actually I remember his name, it was xmcsorley. It was so funny, it happened on c&c islands in the water tunnel and he thought I was cheating afterwards. but I had been killing everyone and their dog with a flamethrower that day, you know, one of those good days where everything seems to go right. honestly if you catch people by surprise you can kill them easily with a flame troop.
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