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| ya em,, [message #108147] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 11:49   |
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bigejoe14
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That's stupid. It dosen't make any sense. That's like saying Americas Army is a modification of Unreal even though it's a completely seperate game and shares nothing similar to Unreal. If something requires the original game to be present, it's a modification. If something dosen't require the original game to be present, it's a stand-alone game.
WHATEVER, FAGGOT
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| ya em,, [message #108165] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 13:53 |
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warranto
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| bigejoe14 |
That's stupid. It dosen't make any sense. That's like saying Americas Army is a modification of Unreal even though it's a completely seperate game and shares nothing similar to Unreal. If something requires the original game to be present, it's a modification. If something dosen't require the original game to be present, it's a stand-alone game.
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wow.. I never knew the creators of America's Army bought Unreal and modified it to make AA. (That would make AA a modification). This is what RenAlert did. They modified Renegade to make RenAlert, thereby earning the title of "Modification". However, it is unique enough to be considered a completely seperate game, classified as a "Total Conversion Modification". Hence it's both a game, though a modification under the title of Total Conversion as it took Renegade and changed it.
So it's both a game, and a modification under the title of Total Conversion as the team took Renegade and changed it.
Just as Team Fortress is a game, though is also a Total Conversion of Half-Life.
Edit: and it's not a stand-alone game. If this were true it would not require Renegade to play any aspect of it. As it is, RenAlert uses the serial key of Renegade and play online, thus is dependand on Renegade being at least owned, if not installed.
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| ya em,, [message #108173] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 14:58 |
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U927
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Except...it wouldn't exist if Renegade didn't exist?
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You could say the same thing about Counterstrike and Half Life, yet they call Counterstrike a game...
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| ya em,, [message #108176] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 15:23 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Uh...why does it really matter whether RA is a total conversion, modification, or game?
My 2 cents - RenAlert is a total conversion because it just takes the original Renegade game, and substitutes a different Always.dat and changes to the Game.exe file.
It would be a whole new game if you bought the game engine rights and built everything from the ground up, rather than heavily modifiying another game.
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| ya em,, [message #108179] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 15:36 |
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SuperFlyingEngi
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Yeah, you could code yourself your own game engine, but that takes a really really long time.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)
"The danger to political dissent is acute where the Government attempts to act under so vague a concept as the power to protect "domestic security." Given the difficulty of defining the domestic security interest, the danger of abuse in acting to protect that interest becomes apparent. --U.S. Supreme Court decision (407 U.S. 297 (1972)
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| ya em,, [message #108180] |
Sun, 15 August 2004 15:42 |
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Fabian
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| SuperFlyingEngi |
It would be a whole new game if you bought the game engine rights and built everything from the ground up, rather than heavily modifiying another game.
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Agreed.
Besides, if RenAlert is totally seperate from Renegade, then why are you advertising RA in a Renegade forum?
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| ya em,, [message #108284] |
Mon, 16 August 2004 06:28 |
dead6re
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If you want the renegade c&c experince, why dont you go out there and make it or get a team together and do it.
Or get ea to.
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