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Re: The Pointsfix and the Game Listings [message #405654 is a reply to message #405646] Tue, 06 October 2009 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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1) I am a Jelly Moderator and an Exodus admin.
2) I am not speaking as a representative of Jelly or it's community.
3) Everything I say is my OWN, PERSONAL view. Not Jelly's.

Now that's said, lets continue.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38

Crusade? You have an unchallengeable, undeserved monopoly on the game listings

1) I don't have the hostnames, Jelly has.

2) unchallengeable, yes. There's noone who can get higher then a00.

3) Undeserved? No. Jelly was FIRST to register the nickname, that makes him the owner of the domain name, and that gives him the right to do with it what he wants.

Yes, he does own the highest nickname. So, that means he was smarter then other people by registering it first. Would you also rage at a company if they have a better business tactic then others?


Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38

Duhhh, because Jelly has registered ALL the top listings, so when you log in all you see is the Jelly servers and the servers Jelly currently favours. And, yet again, this means any new server has no hope of drawing players.


So where is this undeserved? What has happened to the good old "First come, First serve"?

So you are against the fact that the owner of a nickname has the right to choose who to give it to.. right? Isn't this the same as saying like "I know you have the best car out there man, but it's unfair that you let your friends drive in it, but you don't let me drive in it! Oh yeah, and I totally hate the wheels you have!"

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38


They say who gets all the a00 names. They say who's top on the game listings. They say: all our servers go right at the top, and our friends come next, and if you cross us we'll take the name back, and if you don't like it you can fuck off.

This is totalitarianism on a scale that dwarfs anything you can say about TT.


All the a00 names? All the HIGH a00 names, yes. Not all.

Secondly, like I said before, Jelly owns the nicknames. Why isn't he allowed to do with them whatever the fuck he wants? (See my previous example)

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38

But in this case, you'd be registering MILLIONS of domain names, which meant that anyone trying to start a website would have to get your permission or it would have no chance of succeeding.


But because I have purchased these domain names, paid for them and was the first one to register it, that STILL does NOT change the fact that I can do with it WHATEVER THE BLOODY FUCK I WANT.



Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38


Of course. TT agrees with this position, and so do I. (Although, many people on the anti-pointsfix side actually DO NOT agree with this position - they violently disagreed with my right to use the pointsfix in the clanwars league, which instantly destroys their creidibility)

Clanwars league is YOUR problem, not mine, nor Jelly's.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38


No, it's not case closed, because Jelly keeps its monopoly over the game listings.


And he has the right to keep that.

Spoony wrote on Tue, 06 October 2009 20:38

I'm not saying TT is about to say: "ok, we're gonna pull a jelly here, pointsfix is compulsory and if you don't like it you can fuck off". I'm saying that IF WE DID, you would see how wrong it was.


You have the right to do that, but you have to keep in mind you have to keep the full community support. By doing that, you're not getting that.

Jelly does not have to do anything. Jelly owns it, Jelly was the first, and Jelly has the full right to do with it what the bloody shit he wants.


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nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47

Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
 
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