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Re: bypasser - where to report [message #210891 is a reply to message #208921]

Tue, 01 August 2006 17:00

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help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

if i used the modem i got for broadband my ipaddress would change everytime i restarted my computer, i can change it now by unpluging the router and plugging it back in. did you do a ip look up? you can see where a ip is from.

Changing your IP is fairly easy using the method you describe. But like I said, it takes at least 2 minutes to do, while it only takes a moderator 1 second to ban his new IP. With him having to spend significantly more effort just to get back in and cheat, he will quickly give up.

help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

RG uses the hdd serial to see detect computers identity. it takes less than 5 minuts to rewrite that. to be totally honest RG is S***. if some n00b really wanted to cheat, it is easy. go to gogle and type in bypass rengaurd and you will get 100's of results. the only thing RG is good for is updates, maps get "de-buged" and blocks put on to stop b2b.

RG uses more than hdd serial, but you are correct in that changing your hdd volume serial is trivial if you have the tools or programming knowledge to do it. RG currently has several banning methods, and the upcoming version will give us more options to effectively keep any bypassers banned.

help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

much more better would a server rengaurd, where the server detects cheating insead of a client. so no-one has to complain if some-one cheats. they get banned simple as that. it takes a small time to create another nick but ppl woulnt do that. it takes too long.

I agree, the most effective RG would be built into the server. Currently it is already possible to do some server-side cheat detection, by checking the rate of fire and damage done for each weapon. This still doesn't help for detecting client-specific hacks like radar/stealth hacks, bigheads, and other objects mods.

help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

i am wrinting a script to detect the big head cheat in the future and see uf that is better than rengaurd, as soon as the bullet doesn't hit the head but the person dies; *BAM* they get banned.

I wish you luck. Coding that is surely possible, and others have tried, but tracking and processing the trajectory and hit spot of every projectile in the game has proven to bee too cpu-intensive to be usable. Please let us know if you make any progress.

help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

btw: i don't want people to take offence to theis post, it is just what i think. the poeple who programed rengaurd did a good job. they should of planned it better.

Definitely no offense taken. I found your post to be good constructive critisim. You didn't just say "OMG RG SUX0RS!", you gave specific examples of possible bypasses and suggested improvements. While it may appear to you that RG wasn't planned very well, bear in mind that things are much more complex with the RG system than you could imagine. We have huge improvements in the works, but are constrained by time (free time of our programmers), and the constantly changing threats as new sorts of hacks and bypasses are created. RG currently stops most cheaters, and we are working on improved detection and banning in the meantime. If we spent time trying to investigate and counter every reported cheat or bypass, we would just be spinning our wheels and get nothing done.

help-linux wrote on Wed, 19 July 2006 20:59

i seen a cheater server the other day, are ppl that go on that loosers, NO. they are just having fun.

I see no problem with a "cheater server", where the server admin doesn't mind people cheating, and everyone can have some crazy fragfest. RG is meant for server owners who want their players to have serious, fun-filled, fair games - without some cheater ruining the gameplay.

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		bypasser - where to report By: reckneya on Mon, 10 July 2006 10:38
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Mon, 10 July 2006 10:53
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: reckneya on Mon, 10 July 2006 11:44
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Goztow on Mon, 10 July 2006 13:20
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: rc22fires on Mon, 10 July 2006 14:25
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: light on Mon, 10 July 2006 22:59
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Goztow on Tue, 11 July 2006 00:25
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: reckneya on Tue, 11 July 2006 07:57
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: luv2pb on Tue, 11 July 2006 10:09
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Berkut on Tue, 11 July 2006 16:00
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Tue, 11 July 2006 18:09
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Goztow on Wed, 12 July 2006 04:01
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: reckneya on Sun, 16 July 2006 17:19
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Sun, 16 July 2006 17:42
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Blazer on Fri, 14 July 2006 14:47
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 15 July 2006 06:54
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: jnz on Wed, 19 July 2006 17:59
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Blazer on Tue, 01 August 2006 17:00
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Goztow on Sat, 15 July 2006 03:31
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: snoix on Sun, 16 July 2006 18:42
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Goztow on Sun, 16 July 2006 23:53
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: snoix on Mon, 17 July 2006 04:52
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: cmatt42 on Mon, 17 July 2006 15:25
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Zion on Thu, 20 July 2006 11:06
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: jnz on Thu, 20 July 2006 11:33
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Zion on Thu, 20 July 2006 14:40
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: jnz on Fri, 21 July 2006 13:44
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Zion on Fri, 21 July 2006 14:23
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: danpaul88 on Fri, 21 July 2006 14:59
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Fri, 21 July 2006 18:51
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: Ma1kel on Sat, 22 July 2006 14:58
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: =HT=T-Bird on Sat, 22 July 2006 15:32
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: ninjahh on Mon, 31 July 2006 13:52
		Re: bypasser - where to report By: grant89uk on Fri, 04 August 2006 21:56

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