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Re: Pointfix: POLL [message #405313 is a reply to message #405252] Sun, 04 October 2009 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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tellsson wrote on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:46

Nice tryout to destroy the context. It started with this:

Tildeth wrote on Thu, 01 October 2009 23:54
Didn't you notice the same thing at Jelly (as tellsson pointed out earlier)?

Your answer:
yes, but I didn't notice it at n00bstories. clearly the pointsfix isn't the only factor... perhaps jelly moderators and admins treating players like absolute shit for no reason might have something to do with it too?

So what? it WAS clearly only the pointmod wich emptied our server, and NOT how the admins/mods treated ppls in the forum.

No, I meant it doesn't change the fact that the way some of the mods and admins treat people is appalling, and has no justification. Originally you denied that anyone except joetorp was doing it, then changed your story to "but it's justified"

Why should I care whether the pointsfix empties Jelly? We're not trying to force it on you.

tellsson wrote on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:46

why i should use harsh words against ppls who have theyr own opinion?
Its called respect/tolerance.

uh, do you even know what we're talking about here?

i'm talking about the people at clanwars who ACTIVELY got in the way of a community's decision whether to use the pointsfix.

the rightful admin and league owner, me, decided i wanted to use the pointsfix. this was SABOTAGED by a few people at clanwars. not disagreed with - SABOTAGED. a systematic campaign of lies, character assassination, manipulation, rigging polls and lying about the results - by a bunch of cheaters, pointpushers and general rule-breakers. what's more, people actually used this sorry scenario as an argument AGAINST THE POINTSFIX!

if you even MARGINALLY side with them over me - and plenty of people have (i haven't seen a word of condemnation against these pricks, nor a single word of support to my position), then you DON'T support a community's right to choose whether to use the pointsfix or not. indeed, you actively oppose it.

we're not talking about "respect and tolerance of opinions" here. we're talking about a bunch of cheaters subverting the wishes of the community's admins. if this happened at jelly you might be a little less quick to "respect and tolerate" it.

i'm often accused (ad nauseum, in fact) of trying to force the pointsfix on communities that don't want it - which is, of course, entirely incorrect and can't be deduced if you actually read anything i say. yet there are plenty of people who actually physically try to force the pointsbug on communities that don't want it. if people are pissed at me because they (wrongly) think i'm forcing the pointsfix onto others, they ought to be twice as outraged about this. of course they aren't, which is why the rage at me seems rather odd, and why when people say "there should be a choice whether to use pointsfix or not" they often don't mean it...

tellsson wrote on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:46

I told you its hard to explain it in english coz my lack of the english lang, but hey, it isnt a shame for you to translate it.

since I know almost no german, it seems like you're in a better position to translate it than I am, eh?

tellsson wrote on Sun, 04 October 2009 12:46

Yes, i dont have to prove it.

cool, that means I don't have to take it remotely seriously.

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